Wednesday, July 10, 2013

Interview on What Now with Ken Rose

Most memorable moment:
Ken: So do you think humanity can come together as one family, or is that hopelessly naïve?
Me: It's hopelessly naïve.

Listen to it here.


forrest said...

The guy is a wonderful foil for your observations... and finds you dreadfully amusing, in a terminally well-bred way. It reminds me of Lord Dunsany's story, of an ancient, little-known empire where the rulers are all lying about having grapes dropped into their mouths; and being bored, someone suggests "Send in the prophets!"

The prophets are all magnificently bushy and impressive; the rulers applaud their denunciations & their terrifying predictions of utter devastation. "And just the other day I found a piece of ___; it was a little rock almost as big as my thumb." [something like this; you get the idea.]

Even for people who admire the cogency & uncompromising clarity of your thinking, actually getting it could be too overwhelming...

divelly said...

No sound.
Which player?

Anonymous said...

Laconism is good

Robo said...

At the very end of the program, when the telephone conversation is over, the interviewer defaults to the terminally hopeful position that a kumbayah moment can somehow occur to save us all. Perhaps he feared that all the oxygen in the room and all of his radio listeners would suddenly be sucked away if he did not insert an emergency disclaimer. Although it was perhaps only an artifact of excessive audio processing, Ken's breathing did indeed sound quite labored throughout.

Kevin said...

It sounded to me as though Ken were rather frightened by the reality that Dmitry sets forth in such unvarnished terms, and that his chuckles were nervous laughter at hearing what so few dare to think or say, and yet is manifestly evident once you permit yourself to consider the facts. I also get the impression that the content of this book has real survival value, and that I therefore need to read it.

Unknown said...

I loved the end of the program. It was as though the host was asking Orlov if he really believed what he was saying. I thought the response was perfect too, because it made the credibility obvious.

Not all frightful tales have storybook endings. But aren't we grown up enough to handle reality? I'd like to think so.

Avi said...

In past episodes, Ken has mentioned not being in good health and having dire financial straits. Quite tragic considering that the ride from Occidental, CA down to the coast is one of the most exhilarating vistas I've ever witnessed.

Rhisiart Gwilym said...

Dmitry, I'll be publishing a review of 'Five Stages' as soon as I've digested it thoroughly, initially on the MediaLens Message Board, which now has a pretty big worldwide lurkership, and lots of active posters.

Others there have already mentioned it briefly, unanimously impressed. I want to give it a more thorough treatment, and get a wave of interest going. It is a landmark text, after all.

I speak a lot about the handful of unusually savvy clear-seers who are active on the net at this time; the usual names, you know: Mike Ruppert (now declining into retirement I suppose), John Michael Greer, Nicole Foss, Jim Kunstler, Richard Heinberg, Kjell Aleklett, and on. (No particular order of precedence implied by this higgledy-piggledy list) There will be I suppose twenty or thirty names, with the last few tailing off into individual compilers' personal preferences.

I always think that your name goes near the head of the list; the top, most impressive handful, not least because of that relentless, deep-penetrating realism, seamlessly-blended to the really beautiful black wit and understated Russian(?) black humour. Anyone who can make you laugh out loud, again and again, about TEOTWAWKI has got something special, obviously.

Probably I'll use some of the copy in this post in my review. We'll see. I'll copy it to Club Orlov comments as soon as it's done.

Jb said...

This was my first introduction to Mr. Rose's program. His demeanor suggested to me that he possesses a genuine sense of amusement with life in general. The subtle notes of ill health offer all of us some much needed perspective.

Reading in public is a great way to share the book. While reading my copy (#108) of TFSoC on a small beach within sight of the New Point Comfort lighthouse, someone stopped to inquire what I was reading.

Thanks, Dimitry for conducting and posting the interview. It's great to hear you fully engaged in a well planned discussion.

Anonymous said...

"...breaking through to people in a mental hospital."

Normalcy bias rules the roost. I helped work on a open space referendum selling the idea as one which would ultimately keep school taxes lower in the long run. I could hardly tell people you need to keep the farms cause the end of the world is coming.

The open space movement is at an end and it's time to move to pushing sustainable agriculture. Unfortunately, I can't see a way from my current position as a low level politician.

As a sailor Dmitry, you might understand the phrase "One hand for me, one hand for the ship." That holds only so long as the ship is worth sailing. It might be time for me o come down from the rigging and using both hands to man the "personal flotation device."

Do I leave middle earth to it's fate?? Do I let them stand alone??