Wednesday, June 05, 2013

C-Realm Podcast 365: Communities that Abide

KMO welcomes Dmitry Orlov back to the C-Realm Podcast to  to discuss his new book, The Five Stages of Collapse: Survivors’ Toolkit. Dmitry developed the 5-staged model of collapse several years ago, and this conversation is a follow-up to C-Realm Podcast episode 96: Kollapsnik and the Ripping Yarn. In the book, Dmitry presents case studies of people who responded adaptively to collapses of various sorts, and the conversation focuses on organized crime syndicates in post-Soviet Russia as well as the Roma (Gypsies) who have mastered the art of hiding in plain sight, staying flexible, and maintaining a clear boundary between themselves and the larger societies in which they operate.
Music by Mornin’, Old Sport.
Related C-Realm blog post: Descent into Anarchy?


k-dog said...

A sustainalist by nature will seek to embrace a community which endures. Yet an oppressive society that dehumanizes and brutalizes it's members isn't worth having regardless of it's ability to endure.

A society worth having must have the capacity to endure but endurance is only a necessary and not a sufficient condition for a good society. Endurance is the foundation on which to build a society that provides all it's members a rich and meaningful life but it is not an end in itself.

But if we wind up having narco-cartels running parts of the US like you describe in this podcast such philosophical considerations will be moot.


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Rita Narayanan said...

I agree about the above comments on endurance....part of the problem is that people have been provided a whole lot of psychological and social freedom for FREE as a right but by no means have they created the comprehensive growth to push the society forward intensively.

So our so called "progressive" freedoms are superficial and the person who grows "really" is at a psychological disadvantage.

I see this all the time in India! Modern liberalism has created moral parasities just as super capitalism is gobbling the physical environment.